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BIDP


MINUTES OF BIDP COUNCIL MEETING NO. 7 2005/2006


Held at: Gaborone Cricket Club on 18th May, 2006, at 6pm


7.1

Attendance




7.1.1

Present:

D Young

Secretary




E Mazhani

President




S Kentshitswe





P Shah








7.1.2

Apologies:

G Vlug

Treasurer




B Hyde

Vice president




L Hutchings





A Chiwila








7.1.3

Absent:

T Rantshilo





B Bale












ACT

7.2

PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING

7.2.1

The minutes of the previous council meeting were agreed to be a true record by those then present.



7.3

ACTIVITIES AND FUNCTIONS:

7.3.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES



5.3.2

W Foote: propose function to accommodate (check email for dates) #5.




Function 26th October - 5th November 2006 #6.




19h30 for 11hrs on Sunday, 29th October, 2006: Venue to be decided.

DY





7.4

TREASURER'S REPORT

7.4.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES



4.5.4

One unpaid member has listed membership on letterhead; has been told to pay or remove: no response: should refer to lawyers. L Hutchings suggests a Council member to visit, then lawyer to deal with this if not resolved. Mr Matlhaga: letter done 31st August, 2004: no response.







Monitor reminder #4.




DY delivered an invoice: Mr Matlhaga says he will settle.

GV


1.5.6

Signatories for BIDP to be amended. Forms submitted to bank: #4.




Still to complete the process #5.

GV


5.4.2

Poor interest rates. G Vlug proposed BBS fixed term (paid up) shares: 10+ percent interest. (ETM requested more information: 8+percent at banks) #5.





No report #6




BBS ok for approx. P70,000.00.

GV

7.4.2

P Shah paid P40.00 cash for champagne breakfast: issue receipt.

DY



7.5

MEMBERSHIP

7.5.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES


5.7.3

Received I Mokheledi application by e-mail. B Hyde noted outstanding items on the application form and handed it to ETM to follow-up with I Mokheledi.





ETM has spoken to IM: D Young to follow up #6




ET to find original submission.

ET


1.6.2

Review Maule's application. Write and advise pending on qualifications. In hand: #4.




DY has sent a letter.



5.5.2

Received new application from E Dondofema #5. Approved today #6




Signatures needed on certificate.

DY


5.5.3

M M Mogomela has requested receipt for P120 #6.




G Vlug informed. DY sent a letter to Mogomela (25ap06) regarding membership.

GV


6.5.2

Received new application from G T Phuthegang. Send details to council members #6.




Done: ETM has discussed: needs 2 years experience or associate membership: needs proposer and seconder. (No certificate are issued for associate members).


ETM

7.5.2

M Adolwa application: no proposer and seconder: ETM has investigated and discussed with associate, so DY and ETM have proposed and seconded. Circulate form to council members: check whether paid.


DY



7.6

CORRESPONDENCE

7.6.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES


4.7.5

G Vlug on subcontract copyright: Lawyer requested to proceed. Power of attorney is needed: Monday for R Sergeant or G Vlug to sign. Sebego Sharma draft: G Vlug will ask them to send final letter. Signed and action awaited from Lawyer. G Vlug wrote a deadline: no response #4.




D Young has sent a copy of subcontract between Euro Construction and BENMAS to G Vlug to check if it is a copy of the BIDP Contract. G Vlug confirmed that it is an unauthorised copy. G Vlug said he will ask the lawyer to write a letter to Euro Construction and BENMAS asking for P10,000.00 from each of them for copying the contract. No report. Persue: GV/RS need to press. Raised a few days ago. Not. must proceed: noted Euro and Kentz have also used a copy of the subcontract. Not yet pressed: now treating seriously at lawyers. No feedback - Not actioned yet. Not known whether there has been action by Lawyer. Not. G Vlug will instruct Sebonego Sharma: Mr Sharma Lawyer: deadline next meet, else change: and require a refund of our deposit. D Young to follow up letter and write as need be #4.




Letter handed to DY by GV #6.




DY still to do.

DY


4.7.8

E T Mazhani to handle UB School of Architecture. CAA validation/liaison. Need to move forward.




No action: will do, will ask T Rantshilo to help.

ETM


6.10.4

UB: handling of architect training. What could BIDP do to help? LH suggests communicate and interface #6.


ETM


1.7.3.1

Suggest seminar on contracts: November: (ABCON Tshipidi Badiri/ Lawyer/Arbitrator) Still to be actioned. G Vlug: Institute of Arbitrators, ABCON: DY will do brochure: R Busang? J Okumbe new articles member: Thursday 6th April. Try Collins on lawyer: B Bale suggests looking for sponsors ie bank, home loans etc. (+ event coordination). G Vlug, L Hutchings can talk on topics #4.




Mr Williams and Busang are willing, GV stated. GV to decide topics. Set date once people and topics are lined up #5.




No report #6.

GV


6.6.2

Reciprocity with South Africa on professional services: investigate #6.




Wait.


7.6.2

Tibot: in order. No response.


7.6.3

Many emails: will try to get ET to prepare summary.

ET

7.6.4

Membership application form to BHC.

DY

7.6.5

List of correspondence received to be circulated with minutes.

ET




7.7

PUBLICATIONS/NEWS LETTER

7.7.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES


1.8.4

Newsletter: Done.

7.7.2

Suggest advert regarding availability of newsletter on web site.

DY





7.8

LIAISON

7.8.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES


1.9.2.1

T Rantshilo noted contacts were taking place between Government and organisations regarding tendering and fees. BIDP may need to investigate. BEPU IBQS are contesting terms of reference: via BOCCIM. (ongoing). No further developments on PPADB etc, regarding grading of consultants. LH reported that the PPADB had rejected the proposed parameters: 'or equal' (IBQS) LH has spoken to J Anderson and Engineers. Required copies of documents from LH. Not supplied from IBQS #4..








1.9.2.2

LH has given data: decide what to do. (condits of QS engagement not yet).

ETM



Grading of consultants: debate PPADB and organisations. IBQS: reference to act. BIDP needs to get involved. Appoint a member to represent BIDP. Other items. Not done yet. Grading:





1.9.2.3

ETM still to talk to E Moje. #5.

ETM


1.9.2.4

Secretary PPADB: want presentation on 'light - level' committees: please assist. PPADB say they want connection to parastatals as well. But UB is independent. Also write to chair IBQS?






BIDP writing to PPADB.: check letter sent #6.




Letter has been sent.


7.8.2

BOCCIM: Have form: will be advised of charge after submitting: put in form.

ET


7.9

PUBLIC RELATIONS

7.9.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES


1.7.3.2

New UB letter: keep liaising with other organisations: meeting did take place but needs follow-up, ie on tax invoices #4.




Tax invoice received by Young Architects: Note to members to check all responses received #5.




Not yet done.

DY


8.12.3

Affiliate membership arrangements to be considered. Not yet actioned. Liaise / with other organisations. Umbrella setup. (Also note re contracts review committee). Still to be done. ETM has written to 5 organisations #4. Role of BIDP/coexistence.




No responses: some resistance maybe says ETM: keep on trying: IBQS. Might follow up with IBQS and social with others. See below in this item.





Letter to paper regarding single registration body. BOCCIM / GV: LH hand noted: ETM will get forms: May have died on BOCCIM project for centre #4.





BOCCIM / liaison needs follow-up #6.




Identify parties: meet at a function: establish common ground. Early March #4.




Still to do. #5.




Possible June 17-19th 2006 function P400? Agendas #6.




Meet other bodies mid June.

ETM


8.12.5

Consumer watchdog Mmegi discuss with Minchin & Kelly and Mmegi and put forward volunteer. + advisory pages. DY talk to Minchin & Kelly. Now bulk/write to newspaper. Still to complete letter and meet. #5.






Trying to contact today: keep on.

ET/DY


3.10.6

Previous request by B Hyde to call a discussion on public liability issues to be resumed.




Pend.

BH


4.10.3.2

Marketing in cooperation; Public information service. B Bale & ETM to liaise with #4.




Still to do. #5.




No report.




Architects week suggested by BH. ETM thinks good: work: need to involve other organisations: needs common to prepare. ETM will talk to BH to get background: maybe BH will lead. Suggest annually.



ETM


4.10.3.3

Market contacts with institutions: Still not done: (BB has drafted an item). Institute of Arbitrators item from LH #6.

BB/ETM



Involvement of social and family functions. Talks of general interest. #4.



4.10.3.3.2

Talk of general interest: arising from professions self-interest.

BH



Possible direct action on ie clean up: social concerns. Next week Rotary and RT #4.



4.10.3.3.3

ETM/rotary.




Rotary BIDP : ask for volunteers to organise.




Put We site. Web page: say P200.00/year #4.



4.10.3.3.4

Web pages advert not done #6.




Web site 2 is in hand.

DY



Web pages advert not done: still to do.

DY



Links from list of firms is in hand #6.




Done.




Application for pages/links needs to be on the site #6




Not yet.

DY


4.10.3.3.5

(BS Arts has slots for members)



4.10.3.3.6

LH: need to go to the unexpected. Possible advert + photo/s Ideas within a week for ad. Advert: moving forward #4.




Draft: monthly heading for weekly #6




Advert must do.

ET/DY


5.10.3

Patron needed: L Hutchings; Magong? Ex President Masire. Dr Chiepe? Jefferis? #5.




Not yet: still to do #6.




Still to do.

LH


5.10.4

A Chiwila suggests donation/contribution to SOS for publicity. Cheque on a cow. Adverts. Targeting is important: #5.




Not yet: still to do #6




Bring forward by volunteers: AC to initiate.

AC


5.10.5

Need to raise BIDP profile: provision of professional service for good cause: RIBA 90% of 'architect work' contacts turn info real jobs. #5.




Still to do: BH RIBA architect 'free week' with charity donation. Suggestion that BIDP members volunteer services for 'donated' houses #6.




Bring forward by volunteers: BH to initiate.

BH


6.10.5

Painting: donation to W Farley #6.




June function is a suggested occasion.

ETM

7.9.2

V Moapare is attending BOBS meetings regarding building regulations (adopt SA National Building Regulations).


7.9.3

E Mazhani: Department of Energy. A Khin is away: Temporary sit-in: D Young volunteers: one meeting only.


DY

7.9.4

Contract review committee: met last week: 2 BIDP members attended.


7.9.5

JCI form placed on a website and circulated information to members.

ET

7.9.6

DBES bid document: BIDP will circulate information about that.

ET

7.9.7

PEEPA stakeholders meet 23rd May, 2006: BIDP want to send one delegate: DY to send fax of advert to P Shah.


ET

7.9.8.1

DBES consultants conference: put max 80 delegates. Construction want more: TBBA wanted 25: ABCON 7, other bodies 12: each maximum 5. Best service overall is the topic. Put to help with secretarial service: estimate P10k secretarial services.


7.9.8.2

M Yates wants to attend the above. B Bale thinks can beat price on secretarial services: 5/80 of P10000 is BIDP financial commitment.

BB/LH/ETM




7.9.9

L Hutchings has supplied D Young with general promotional material.





7.10

OTHER MATTERS


7.10.1

MATTERS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES









7.11

NEXT MEETING


7.11.1

The next Council meeting will be held on Thursday, 22nd June, 2006 at 6:00pm at Gaborone Cricket Club.


ALL






Minutes approved:












President


Secretary



Fax

Email

Cc:

E T Mazhani – President




D Young - Secretary




B Hyde – Vice President

392 7764

bhyde@mega.bw


G Vlug - Treasurer

533 7249

vlug@mega.bw


S Kentshitswe

397 1710

zmckbot@info.bw


T Rantshilo

395 8033

archcollabo@mega.bw


L Hutchings

318 2016

randyb@info.bw


A Chiwila

318 2073

acconsult@mega.bw


P Shah

397 3203



B Bale

393 5353



File











Correspondence received



BIDP Council meeting of 18th May, 2006



Date

Description

From


02/05/06

P40.00 cash for champagne breakfast

E Mazhani


05/05/06

Cheque P75.00 for e-form

G Vlug






21/04/06

Letter

Sebego Sharma


23/05/06

Email

Supanames


28/04/06

Invoice

E Tshoganetso


05/05/06

E Dondofema certificate for signing

G Vlug


09/05/06

Letter re investment

BBS


11/5/06

Email

Supanames